tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 5, 2012 10:00pm-11:00pm PST
he's closing things out where it all began with the iowa caucuses. we're waiting for the president to speak at some point during the hour. we'll bring that to you live. mitt romney is not done yet. he has two appearances scheduled for tomorrow. one in ohio, one in pennsylvania. the campaigns have been everywhere that matters lately. every state that could swing tomorrow, ohio, pennsylvania, florida, new hampshire.
running mates surrogates also dotting the map. in the end it's down to the candidate and the candidate's last vocal cord. >> fired up. ready to go. fired up, ready to go. >> you know, if anyone wants to know where the energy is, anyone following american politics wants to know where the energy is, look right here in this room. >> each candidate trying to get even one more person to vote tomorrow. early voting has been a blessing and a curse. limited hours made for long lines over the weekend. take a look at that. that could make post election legal battles if either state is pivotal. that is a very real possibility. with me here tonight john king, also political analyst david gergen, gloria borger.
ari is an occasional unpaid political advicer for the romney campaign. paul begala senior adviser for president obama's senior pac. i want you to listen to a clip and get your response. >> a year from now, i think people are going to see we're starting to make some progress, there's going to be some pain out there. if i don't have this done in three years, there's going to be a one-term proposition. >> now, we knew from the beginning that our work would take more than one year or even one term, because let's face it, the middle class was getting hit long before the financial crisis. >> wow, he looks older. >> the best economist and business people didn't know how deep the hole was when he came in.
>> are you quoting george bush or -- >> good one. >> or was it cheney? >> it's a texas thing. >> he came in, the hole was far deeper than he or anyone knew. i don't think anyone knew how deep the hole would be. short answer, every time i looked at the economy, obama couldn't win, every time i look at the republicans i think he can't lose. thank god the republicans have fielded the weakest candidate of my memory to go up against this president. >> you really think he's the weakest candidate? >> more than john mccain? >> john mccain was tripled by bush. >> excuses, excuses, excuses. here's what happened. in 2009, after the president passed the stimulus, he projected growth this year to be
4.3%. in 2010 he projected growth to be 4.2%. one year ago, he projected growth 3.2%. two months ago, he projected growth to be above 2%. it's 1.8% for the year. >> he keeps downgrading his present -- you said nobody saw it coming. >> it did come and it got worse under president obama. >> before we go down this road, we can be on this road all night long, and probably will be tomorrow. just in terms of the president's path. can you take us down that path? >> i can. but i have to leave all this partisan -- >> please do. >> they're going to start voting in new hampshire in a couple hours. the main event is tomorrow as we look at the map. it's got a file up there that i'm going to have to close and make it go away, i can handle that with the map. one thing we know, here's the map from 2008. this is election night. we're not going to have this. we're going to have a much closer, much more competitive election.
who can get to 270. you have to say this. the president has an easier path, and the president, if you're a betting person, the money would be safer on the president. it takes 270 to win. we have the president at 237. those are the dark blue states. governor romney at 270, same thing. the question is, who can get to 270 easiest? the president is ending in three midwestern states, wisconsin, ohio and iowa. if he wins those three. nothing else changes, game over. that's why he's there. all of the candidates, you know what they think they need, that's for the president. let's take this one away for now. i'm going to leave this one here for now. the republicans would say, no, we're going to get wisconsin tomorrow, we can get iowa with a big surge of agricultural votes. for the sake of argument, let me leave this here for now. in both campaigns, you don't get much of an argument. we'll see what happens on
election day tomorrow. if i give him nevada, iowa and wisconsin, 259/206. what does governor romney have to do? he must win the state of florida. tonight the democrats say we think we're still in play. give them truth sear rum, which ones are you likely to lose, they put florida on the list. the obama operation says watch us turn out the vote tomorrow. let's assume it stays with its normal republican dna, we'll keep it there. virginia is a must win for governor romney. we are wired on the ground, we can do it, the key will be the northern virginia suburbs. for the sake of argument, i know democrats are getting mad at me, i'm going to give it to governor romney. if we do that, this could be a decisive state. for the sake of argument, the obama campaign says we have this state. watch what happens tomorrow, especially in evangelical areas.
i'm going to this hypothetical to show you how close this would be. it would leave us only ohio and new hampshire. you only get 4 in new hampshire, 18 in ohio. under any scenario, i could switch a few of these in plausible ways. under any scenario, this becomes a key. the 18 electoral votes here. if romney wins it, he's the next president of the united states. if the president can hold ohio, he's the next president of the united states. of the states i signed, which are likely to be a different way, the obama campaign says they think they'll win colorado. the obama campaign thinks they'll win one of these two. this is actually four -- and it's a true tossup. we'll watch this one play. it won't be decisive unless you have other changes out here. for now, would you have to say, advantage president, if you look at the public polling in iowa, wisconsin and ohio, the president is narrowly ahead. in these other states, governor
romney may be up one or tie. on paper, advantage to the president. the republicans say they'll prove us wrong tomorrow. >> i'm not going to take it personally, john doesn't want to be back here with us. >> in terms of -- let's keep going over there, if you guys have any questions, feel free to ask. what do you not know that you would like to know? what information do you -- obviously, who's going to win, but just -- what it boils down to, senior turnout, are there -- >> younger voters, i want to know younger voters, if they turn out in large numbers, that's good for the president. you want to know white voters, the more minorities that turn out, the better that is for the president. those are really two important things, latinos. so important in that minority. >> i think anderson, sometimes, when we get through all these individual states, we lose sight of the basic dynamics of a race like this. the last five elections there are 19 state that is have gone
democratic, in five straight elections. they amount to 243 electoral votes. there are 22 states that have gone republican, but they're only 180 electoral votes. the democrats start out with a significant advantage these days. they only need to pick off a couple states. >> you mentioned the youth vote. i think that's really critical. you look at obama, 66/31 with the youth vote in 2008. the youth vote was 18% of the electorate. he's dropped, he's 57-38 with young people. if the youth vote shrinks from 18% to 16% obama's toast. young people who have not been talked about, their issues haven't been talked about, actually in some ways hold the future. >> john, you've spent a lot of time on college campuses, what are you seeing?
>> demographics of the electorate, if the young vote is level in 2008, if latino's vote grows a little bit, the president is likely to win the election. this is 2008, these are the house races in 2008. look at all the blue, here's the presidential race in 2008. this is a center right country. we have 29 republican governors, remember that. let's look at the house races in 2008. is it 2008 or 2010? see the red, that's 2010. that's 2008. it's a presidential year, turnout will be higher. in terms of the energy on the ground, it's kind of both. the democrats are fired up, they have a good turnout operation. the question is, slight changes
in the demographics of the electorate. if there's slightly less african-american votes, slightly less latino vote. and the republicans come to play, then some of these states could tip. >> ari has a good question for you. >> a lot of pundits and a lot of normal people are going to be looking at the exit polls. can you walk people through what the exit polls got wrong in 2004 and 2012 and what people should be on the lookout for? >> i'm not going to go into the specifics of each different election. but i would tell you, be careful of exit polls, be careful of any polls, polls are a guide. exit polls have people, they walk out of the polling place, someone says would you like to answer questions? over time, by the end of the day, you have three waves, thousands of surveys. you have pressty reliable data. in a very close election, an exit poll is a good benchmark, you shouldn't use it to say x is it going to win, y is going to lose.
i would be aware. the obama campaign is saying don't believe the early exit polls they won't take into account early voters. we try to adjust on this, do national polls, and factor people in. it's a very good science, not an exact science. we have to take a quick break, more with our panelists. we're waiting for live events with president obama and michelle obama. a lot more ahead, we'll bring it to you as it happens, our election eve reporting continues in a moment. wait for it... wait for it...
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(together) social on this side, financial. which party is currently predicted to win a majority in the senate? the republicans? would you make a bet on that? no. are you chicken? president obama's expected on the stage shortly in des moines, iowa. jessica yellin is there for us tonight. big crowd behind you in iowa. the president is wrapping up his campaign. even though there are only six electoral votes in the state, but for him, it's where he battled it out against hillary clinton. >> it is, anderson. the fact that he's ending his campaign here is meaningful strategically and symbolically. those votes could make the difference between having a second term and becoming a one-term president. this is a state in which he has an extensive ground operation and in which they have mobilized
the early vote, almost like no other. they have an extreme advantage with the early vote here, and they almost say it's beyond governor romney's reach tomorrow, he would have to break history in order to win it. this has been from the obama campaign. there's real history here, you'll recall after that historic caucus in the year 2008, it's where president obama first said this day would never come. that's when he started talking about ending politics as we know it in washington et cetera. it's coming back to where it all began. he's landed air force one here. the first lady's plane has also landed at the airport. the president is greeting her at the airport, they'll arrive here live together. there will be a performance from bruce springsteen and a speech from the old campaign gang rejoining the team for a final good-bye, anderson. >> what's he doing tomorrow? we know mitt romney is having campaign events tomorrow.
is the president not doing that? why? >> you know, traditionally, first of all, he has not campaigned on election day, it's not his ritual. and he's not going to break ritual, what he'll do tomorrow is play basketball. they have this history -- there was one campaign, one election day they did not play basketball, that was that primary against hillary clinton in new hampshire that he lost. and so they always say, they now play basketball every single election day, and that's their rule. >> is that for real? are they really that superstitious? >> oh, yeah. all his campaign aides are growing beards. we're having this rally in front of their 2008 headquarters. yes, they're superstitious. >> that's interesting. and also, they would not -- now, because governor romney has scheduled events tomorrow, to now add some events reactively
would be far too defensive for team obama. what they do, they are no drama obama, they have a plan, a strategy, it is locked in, loaded and ready to go. they're letting their ground game function, because they have total faith in their program, and it is rolling out now. >> all right. >> win or lose, they have faith. >> jessica yellin, appreciate that. we're also waiting for mitt romney to speak tonight in new hampshire. we want to bring back our panel. does that make sense? do campaigns often go with magical thinking like this? >> absolutely. yes. >> romney has a magical budget so -- it's like the magic is all in there. >> days on end wearing black gloves, don't know why, can't remember. >> james carville is a man of mystery, but -- >> i went the whole last couple weeks of a campaign one time and didn't change my underwear.
i washed it at night. >> didn't bill clinton famously campaign up until the end? >> 24 hours, he went around the clock. >> probably he's going to do it again tonight, why not? >> until the last dog dies. >> i think one of the things that's happening here. there's some stuff you can't poll, we talked a lot about the polls and the numbers. there is a level of intensity on both sides that i think when it's this close, we're going to be surprised tomorrow. there are people who are in the tea party who have convinced themselves that this president is a threat to everything they believe in. they're going to strain every effort to make sure he doesn't get reelected tomorrow. the naacp are going to put a million extra black people in the polling areas. we're going to be surprised tomorrow, because neither side wants to -- >> that's one of the things
going back to ohio and -- take the campaigns out of it, you're talking to a lot of the third party groups that have been out there. they say it's closer than the obama campaign says, maybe not as close as the romney campaign says. but the frustrating thing for a lot of people is, they don't get people by party. the way that you early vote in ohio is by the primary you last voted in, if a lot of people turn out in 2010 or during a presidential primary, they would be labelled as republican and not necessarily so. there are lots of unknowns tomorrow, which kind of makes it a little more exciting. >> that's one of the unknowns? >> here's another data point people should keep an eye on. senior citizens. they haven't gotten a lot of attention in this race. they went for president -- john mccain over barack obama by eight points. they're breaking double digits for mitt romney. and they vote in higher proportion in numbers. we haven't gotten a lot of folks in this race. the seniors is a shifting group. the democrats have gained in the last several years by minority.
seniors is a counterbalance to that. >> when we were coming up, the seniors came during roosevelt. if you were 75 today, you were 45 when you voted for ronald reagan. >> can i say something about the way we're being spun these days. my head is exploding from both of these campaigns telling us they have a better get out the vote effort. don't pay attention to the early exits. we don't really know in the end because these races are so close, whether people have voted already who are likely voters or who are you are unlikely voters. whether you're going to cannibalize the people who would normally turn out to vote because you got them to early vote. what we don't know is what we don't know, which is the enthusiasm that youen cat measure. >> thankfully there's a lot we
don't know. we're not in charge, we leave it to the voters. i want to go back to van's point. there is intensity on both sides. there's a noticeable difference in 2008. i think that the republicans are more energized in 2008, democrats are less energized. i think there's a sense about this election when it's over. there won't be so much a celebration as there was in 2008, there's going to be more of a sense of relief about what we didn't get. what we prevented from happening, rather than a real celebration. i don't think there's going to be the celebration -- >> well, because it wasn't an uplifting campaign. >> not if you're on a local tv station in a battle ground state, then your depression starts. it is different, when you visit these counties and you visit the headquarters, you talk to people, it's very different. that's not to say, the obama campaign doesn't have a very impressive turnout operation. they do, and they have this down to a science.
they didn't have a primary challenge. if he wins a close election tomorrow, it could be because of a decision he made very early on, the auto bailout. because he did not have a primary challenge. unless it challenged in the last 72 hours, a bit of a bump from sandy. >> we have to take a quick break. we have a lot more ahead including the wild card sandy. hardest hit areas are scrambling to make it easier for the hardest hit to vote tomorrow. governor romney, we'll bring it to you live when it happens. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use, it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing.
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you're looking at a live shot of the rally in des moines with a wash where president obama just moments from now will wrap up the last campaign of his political career. he'll spend election day tomorrow in chicago, playing basketball of other things as we just learned. it is the third state they visited today. we're waiting for president obama to take the stage any moment. we'll bring that to you live. as well as governor romney when he takes the stage at his rally tonight. a million people in the region hit by sandy are still
waiting for power. thousands have been displaced from their homes. the loss and damage sandy left in its wake is immense. tomorrow, secretary of homeland security janet napolitano is going to travel to nassau, suffolk county long island. they feel like they have not gotten the attention they need. in further, people will be allowed to vote by e-mail or fax. despite the scramble to make it easier to vote, an obvious question that remains, in areas hardest hit, can voters focus on the election. the first election lawsuits have already been filed in ohio over how provisional ballots will be counted and in florida over the deadline for early voting. we all remember what happened in florida in 2000, the lawyers are certainly ready for a repeat, even if the rest of us are not.
joining me is jeffrey toobin, anyone in the panel who wants to ask him a question, can chime in. >> it's not like the stakes could be much higher, and you're saying things are a lot more organized this year than they were back in 2000, in terms of lawyers? >> this is now a part of political campaigns just the way television advertising and field organization. legal team is just as obligatory for campaigns, and they both have them in great numbers. >> and provisional ballots which ohio doesn't count until ten days after the election, explain what rule that could play? >> that's just such an amazing fact, frankly, i just became aware of it, as i've been studying up for election day. and it's really incredible when you think about it. provisional ballots are very common in ohio. whenever you go to a polling place, and there's any sort of problem. your registration appears off,
you don't have the right i.d., they give you the provisional ballot. they put it in an envelope and put it aside. they put it aside for ten days. during those ten days you or your representatives or campaign can go to the board of elections and say, look, i am a legitimate voter, here's my i.d., here's my passport and if we have an election where those provisional ballots could spell the difference, you're going to have essentially 200,000 plus people with lawyers from the campaign saying look, my voters are legitimate, and the election officials are going to have to add jude indicate each one of those. it's the nightmare and the length of the dispute could be endless. >> it could go on and on. we're going to check back with you a little later on. bruce springsteen is taking the stage at the event for president obama tonight. let's take a look. ♪ we learn more from three minute records than we ever learned in school ♪
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besides bruce springsteen, in terms of the -- we were talking about enthusiasm before. do you buy this argument that obviously the enthusiasm for president obama, you would agree paul is not the same as it was in 2008? >> nothing will ever again get to that. that was a once in a millennium -- it was very hard. maybe if you run -- it would be tough for anybody to get there. things that have been reported on, the youth movement called youth mob and hoodie vote. young people are not getting called on their cell phones the way they would have. i think there's that human factor, we just don't know yet. it's less than it was before, but we don't know -- >> are you expecting us to get a decision tomorrow night or a provisional ballot in ohio? >> i guess, but the data. i do believe in data. and i believe in magic and wearing gloves and all that
garbage. the truth, this is still a day to do business. and the data suggests that it's highly likely president obama will win tomorrow. maybe his voters won't turn out. i'm especially worried about young people. it's not an even steven 50/50 deal. >> we know, we have the electorate college given the states that are in play. the handful of states that are in play, that the path for the president is a lot easier to see, and a lot more likely than the path for mitt romney. it doesn't mean that mitt romney can't do it, it just means he has to run the table. if he loses virginia, we see early on tomorrow night that mitt romney were to lose virginia, we would all be thinking, right -- john king, we don't need you any more. okay, it's that much more difficult for -- >> when you look, how many states are this close, i think the likelihood -- 2000 we didn't know from 36 states. 2004 we didn't know until
wednesday morning. 2008 was different. i don't think we're going to know before midnight tomorrow. in the 2000 race all eyes are on florida. wisconsin was 5,708 vote difference. iowa is a 4,000 vote difference. and new mexico was 366 votes separating bush and gore. a lot of close states. and this one too. >> what i think is striking about this, anderson. this race has been all about jobs and the economy. and yet when we talk about the turnout, who's going to be there. it's not about jobs and the economy. the latinos, it's been immigration. how they feel about that. with women, it's about abortion and pay equity, and other issues like that, and with young people it's a series of other issues. it's striking when you get down to the micro -- >> well, on the abortion -- there was a gallop poll saying it was the number one issue among women. a lot of republicans have pushed back saying it is the economy.
>> the election is this close, you have the big theme, and then you niche mark it. if you live in washington, d.c., you're seeing a lot of choice, abortion ads, because romney started to move among suburban women, the obama campaign came after him. okay, where's he coming up, and how do we knock him down. >> someone somewhere right now in both campaigns is writing talking points on how they're going to try to say they have a mandate. >> can we stipulate upfront there will be no mandate? whoever wins -- >> it will -- you and i were talking earlier, this is about party power controlling washington. if barack obama gets re-elected, you're still going to have the republicans -- >> i would argue, whoever wins has to do something dramatic to make an overturn of the other side if they're going to succeed. there is no mandate. >> if most of the tossup states break the president's way, he can get to 300. i'm not saying that's like ily. but if all of the tossup states
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you see bruce springsteen talking there. he's ending the last political campaign of his career where it all began. first lady michelle obama is also in des moines with them. the president is expected to speak any moment. he just arrived at the event. romney has a rally of his own tonight as well. we're going to bring you both as they happen. michelle obama's comments. both candidates have been racking up frequent flyer miles. john king is going to break it down for us. >> you see these disks, they're in certain places, nevada, colorado, iowa, wisconsin, ohio, in here, you can't see it. there's so many visits here. let me stretch it out and make it easy to read. you see this is where all the candidates, they break them down by candidate. this is the state of ohio, the
blue dot, he's been all around the state of ohio. what about governor romney? he too in the rural areas of ohio. also in the cities, but mostly outside. let's move the map a little bit, we'll come back out, come back in. where you see the springsteen rally tonight. this is paul ryan over here, eastern iowa. joe biden. governor romney, the president, if you put them all on, it starts to look like that, you come back out to the map. what you see here is, much of the country, if you live on the west coast, you live up here in the prairie, you live in texas or across the deep south, you're not getting a campaign. they're not coming to see your state unless they're trying to raise money. or unless you happen to be in a tv market that bumps into one of these other states. this is florida, you see a lot of visits. you break it down by candidate, where is the president, this is
the i-4 corridor. this is an area i know ari fleischer is interested in. the democrats will win the southernmost counties, will the jewish votes be less. will the president get less because of the dustup with governor romney and israel in the campaign. you won't see the president out here. this is the most conservative republican part of the state. you see them both competing here in the i-4 corridor, where you find independents. vice president and paul ryan, i'll pull out the map as we close the conversation. that's just paul ryan, that's just vice president biden, that's governor romney. and that's president obama. notice the pattern, in the last couple weeks, this is the last two weeks. the last two weeks of this campaign, about 9 states have gotten the attention, the rest of you just get to watch. >> thanks very much. we're awaiting speeches as i said by president obama and romney. romney's wrapping up election eve at a rally in new hampshire. jim acosta is there, he joins me now on the phone.
what's the mood like within the romney camp tonight? >> i'm sorry i can't get in front of a camera right now. the romney campaign has been running behind for a good part of the last six hours or so. mainly because mitt romney has been trying to shake every hand. talk to every overflow crowd. i have to say, anderson, the mood inside this campaign right now, is serious and determined, despite what the latest battleground polls show, with the president with a slight edge. i was talking to some senior romney advisers earlier today. they're convinced they're going to win a clear and decisive victory tomorrow night. just in case, they're trying to pull out all the stops, obviously, they're going to have their ground game in force across all the swing states in play right now. i talked to a republican source that is close to this campaign. they do concede at least this one republican source said, that ohio is close, and the words of this republican source, very close.
and anderson, in the event that this becomes one of those tight elections for provisional ballots, absentee ballots come into play, i have been told by a romney campaign, that legal teams will be in place, just in case, there are irregularities or needs that are involved with a close counting of the ballots. >> no doubt about that. tomorrow governor romney has a number of campaign events, which is what paul ryan has added. in more campaign events. while president obama will not be out campaigning tomorrow. >> that's right. this was a decision that was made and announced late this afternoon. mitt romney going to pennsylvania, which is a state that they are only starting to see in play in the very last stage of this campaign. they're also going to ohio. he's going to start the day outside of his home in massachusetts. he's going to vote with his wife, ann, and then head off to the two campaign stops in cleveland and pittsburgh. basically, the rationale here, they want to stay visible and keep the energy going all the way until election night.
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you're looking at live pictures from des moines, iowa. bruce springsteen warming up the crowd for president obama's last race of his political career. let's go back to our panel. we're watching this event. when michelle obama speaks and president obama speaks, we'll bring that to you live. does it make sense to you, though, i mean, we just heard that paul ryan has added campaign events tomorrow. does it make you nervous that your candidate is not out on the trail? >> yeah, he's in illinois, you have iowa, wisconsin -- he's on air force one, he can play
basketball on the plane. get him back out there. >> we were on call with the campaign, with the obama campaign about that earlier today, the question was asked. one of their answers is, this is their plan, and they're concentrating on getting voters to the polls, you can't turn the secret service around that quickly. >> that's right. >> the president deserves a mulligan on this one. it's the last day -- >> well, you -- >> it's the last day, what difference does it make. he wants to be down, let him be down. >> from the campaign today, you had a lot of people scratching their heads this morning, why are you in florida when everyone's thinking you're going to win florida. now they're in virginia and ohio tomorrow. is it because the romney campaign thinks they're behind
or they're not taking anything for granted? the republicans say they're not taking anything for granted. at this point, i just don't believe -- >> yeah, exactly. >> will with, they're worried. both sides are worried. >> i'm not exactly sure. they said bill clinton in minnesota and pennsylvania, they're not exactly sure. >> is bill clinton going to be up there? >> if they ask him to, he'll go. >> he likes it so much, he could do it in december. >> you do not want to be. if you are mitt romney and paul ryan, and these guys just spoke for the democrats, you don't want to wake up on wednesday morning and see you lost this vote by one state and i was sitting at home watching television, instead of working. >> everybody knew what was going to happen in 2008. in 2006, everybody knew. 2004 -- today you do not know. >> i think he should be out there.
i would love to see him, see president obama, the last day just see him out there. there are people who want to be able to shake his hand. i think it -- there's a danger that there's somebody out there that says, maybe he really doesn't want it. i wouldn't want to take that chance. >> he's not going to be invited to play basketball. >> when you put the president in somewhere, it takes a lot of time away from the campaign. and your time, i think is better spent getting your voters to the polls. >> tomorrow is the slowest day of the year. >> i understand. but people have to organize -- >> a campaign at this point, they can do both. >> they can crank -- >> if president obama loses it's not because he didn't want it. >> yesterday he said he and david are just superfluous at this point. >> watch him do satellite tv into targeted districts. which would not distract his get out the vote effort.
>> see, i think he will do that. >> if i worked for him, we would strap him to the chair at the least, not the plane. >> the top staff may not be involved, there are boiler room operations looking at turnout saying, we got to get people there in realtime. this is how the campaigns are spending their time tomorrow, trying to get their voters to the polls. whether a candidate out there can help you or not remains to be seen. i remember when people were complaining that mitt romney wasn't campaigning enough. remember, he was doing one or two events a day over the summer. >> it's like disasters you've been to, anderson. you know if you bring the president in, it's a real diversion of resources, everybody gets excited. i think paul's got the right point, he could do some television, remote television. that's easy, it doesn't take anybody's time and effort. that would make sense. to me -- but to me, there's an error with romney going into this. >> i think we haven't talked enough about colorado. >> one of the things about
colorado, i think is interesting. you really have this tug of war. it's a true swing state. it's 50/50. you have kind of what i would say, you have this -- to me, colorado looks like the old coalition of the republicans, versus the new democratic coalition of the future. you have the younger folks, they're in a tug of war there. >> is that right? >> no, it's just the opposite. colorado represents the new coalition, and what you're seeing in ohio and places like wisconsin and michigan is the old fdr type coalition, a lot of working folks in that coalition. colorado is much more about the young. >> and colorado's very urban. >> colorado in 2004 was 8% hispanic, now it's 13% hispanic. that's one of the big changes. 18 to 29-year-olds were 15% in 2004. now they're down to 14%. you have a nice sized senior citizen group there too.
>> this is the future of america in some ways facing off there. i think what happens in colorado, it may not be as important for this election, it could determine it. it may not. i think it says something about politics going-forward. it used to be a red state, it turned purple it's heading toward a blue state. >> i'm just being told -- >> the west would become the new base of the democratic party. >> i'm being told, president and mrs. obama taking the stage in des moines with a wash let's take a look. ♪ ♪
>> oh, my goodness. thank you, guys. thanks so much. wow! oh, my godness. and i love you. i love you from the bottom of my heart. i am beyond thrilled to be here with all of you. but we have to give some love up for bruce springsteen. i mean, gosh. for months i have heard his songs played at our rallies. but i have to say, there's nothing like seeing the boss in person. nothing like it. he has just been tremendous. he and his family and his team, they've just been amazing. so we want to thank bruce for everything he's done for us. and more than anything else, i
want to thank you all for being here tonight. i mean, as you know, this is a pretty emotional time for us, because this is the final event of my husband's final campaign. so this is the last time that he and i will be on stage together at a campaign rally. and that's why we wanted to come here to iowa tonight. because truly this is where it all began, right here. and i have so many fond memories of this state. the house parties in sioux city and cedar rapids, celebrated malia's birthday in pella. and seeing my husband's face
carved in butter. believe me, we still talk about that at christmas. but i will never forget the kindness and warmth and love that you all showed me and my family, especially our girls. that is truly what made the difference back in those early days when i wasn't so sure about this whole process. back when i was still wondering what it would mean for our girls and our family, if barack got the chance to serve as president. but the truth is, while i had my worries and my fears, i also realized that this decision affected not only me as a wife and a mother, but as a voter. as an american. and i started envisioning the kind of person that i wanted to